What do we do at hooker?

watersider

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Simpkin will get better but still probably not quite top first grader, Liddle is good in patches but gets tired and fades badly. Even rotating them better in a match, I think we need to improve this position. Choppy service from both. Particular concern is defensive problems, both don't seem to be able to stay with the game. It really impacts both attack and defense.

Any good players available?

Also agree with earlier suggestions by others that Brooks could prove a good hooker.
 
@watersider said in [What do we do at hooker?](/post/1457922) said:
Simpkin will get better but still probably not quite top first grader, Liddle is good in patches but gets tired and fades badly. Even rotating them better in a match, I think we need to improve this position. Choppy service from both. Particular concern is defensive problems, both don't seem to be able to stay with the game. It really impacts both attack and defense.

Any good players available?

Also agree with earlier suggestions by others that Brooks could prove a good

Somehow the hookers always get the blame when the other players are the ones always making errors
 
The problem is they are two specialist hookers and neither add much as a utility (other than maybe Liddle for short stints at lock).
 
i think a different rotation with them both in the lineup would be a slution. Like liddle for 30 then jake for 30 and liddle to finish. They both show a lot of potential and offer different things.
 
I think that they both have a lot of upside. Liddle is strong in defence save the Pangai effort today - but 10m out from your own line is not the place for defenders to drop off & go for a strip.

He again chose the right time to run from dummy half and set up a try.

I would like the coach to show a bit of flexibility and find a point in the game where you can have both on the field at the same time
 
Remeber Simpkin doesent turn 20 until October. Could play 2 mkre yrs of Jersey Flegg.
 
I reckon the 2 guys we've got go alright but Madge's use of the bench is bizarre.
He waits until we're out of the contest before he makes subs. Why not bring em on fresh while there is still an opportunity to compete. Why did Amone play 13 minutes? why have him there at all?
 
@helmesy said in [What do we do at hooker?](/post/1457936) said:
The problem is they are two specialist hookers and neither add much as a utility (other than maybe Liddle for short stints at lock).

You think that’s the teams biggest problem
 
They need to be utilised better by Madge. It looks like he is just trialling them out there. Our bench use has been very poor this year. Liddle has a crisper pass at this stage and is quicker. Simpkin is more deceptive our of dummy half and controlling the ruck imo.
 
No idea why no one has tried to sign Matt Parcell currently in super league.

Came on the scene and looked good in the NRL, disappeared to England and was never spoken of again....
 
@pedrolaurie said in [What do we do at hooker?](/post/1457941) said:
I reckon the 2 guys we've got go alright but Madge's use of the bench is bizarre.
He waits until we're out of the contest before he makes subs. Why not bring em on fresh while there is still an opportunity to compete. Why did Amone play 13 minutes? why have him there at all?

He played 13 minutes because they scored 3 tries in his 13 mins and then didnt score once he went off
 
I think it's an okay rotation. Not sold on Liddle, can do some good things but his passing and defence can be average too. He and Simpkin need to be rotated earlier.
 
@madge said in [What do we do at hooker?](/post/1457944) said:
They need to be utilised better by Madge. It looks like he is just trialling them out there. Our bench use has been very poor this year. Liddle has a crisper pass at this stage and is quicker. Simpkin is more deceptive our of dummy half and controlling the ruck imo.

I think Jakes first wide pass is his strength and he always seems to get it out in front of the ball runner and gets us going forward. Both hookers have some bad ones in them too which along with defensive errors is a problem
 
@boonboon said in [What do we do at hooker?](/post/1457964) said:
@pedrolaurie said in [What do we do at hooker?](/post/1457941) said:
I reckon the 2 guys we've got go alright but Madge's use of the bench is bizarre.
He waits until we're out of the contest before he makes subs. Why not bring em on fresh while there is still an opportunity to compete. Why did Amone play 13 minutes? why have him there at all?

He played 13 minutes because they scored 3 tries in his 13 mins and then didnt score once he went off

It was only 2. Doubt he was the gaping hole you're making him out to be.
 
@jc99 said in [What do we do at hooker?](/post/1457975) said:
I think it's an okay rotation. Not sold on Liddle, can do some good things but his passing and defence can be average too. He and Simpkin need to be rotated earlier.


Hi passing and defence were much better than Simpkin today but agree they need to rotate after 30.
 
It's a tough one do you play them both or pick one for the 80.

If both Id start simpkin and have both on the field simpkin could be a better 13
 
@wagga_tiger said in [What do we do at hooker?](/post/1457982) said:
@jc99 said in [What do we do at hooker?](/post/1457975) said:
I think it's an okay rotation. Not sold on Liddle, can do some good things but his passing and defence can be average too. He and Simpkin need to be rotated earlier.


Hi passing and defence were much better than Simpkin today but agree they need to rotate after 30.

Didn't see it personally. When we get near the try line Liddle always throws a shocker and slows us down, it's very frustrating. Defensively Liddle was a bit better but Simpkin was okay too, neither are great defenders at this point.
 
put Brooks or Hastings there and have either Simpkin or Liddle off the bench
 
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