Barclays EPL Fantasy League 2015-2016 - head2head

In our International Comp, Gameweek 14 results are in, with games/final scores as follow:
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Laroche Lions 76 - 64 The Favorites!
Bitm2007 82 - 48 Dortmund Wizards
MEZO 61 - 71 Blueroos
bag of Richards 60 - 57 DIRTY SANCHEZ
Mighty Leeds 64 - 47 faizeecfc
UYEEMAN 92 - 76 BusbyBabes
Nachooooo! 36 - 69 Bon Vivant
AJ 70 - 51 Average
stiva993 71 - 39 Arsene's Assassins
Desi Doctor 20 - 61 opener
Deleted 35 - 81 The best teAm NevEr
Lokomotiv Bawbag 65 - 52 GCMU
The Skidmarks 53 - 67 Li2k
MOSS SIDE BLUE'S 58 - 70 Delph = Snake
Kivimäki County 51 - 83 chelseaparkdabus
JULIE'S CITY FC 55 - 51 FIGJAM
Anaika United 56 - 42 Killer Kane
Deleted 42 - 88 Mexican Monkeys
Rossco Wanders 36 - 71 The blues fc
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Victors this gameweek included Laroche Lions (tiger_one), Blueroos (from the WT f/B page), Mighty Leeds (foreveratiger), Bon Vivant (Mrs tiger_one) with the largest winning margin by Mexican Monkeys (bazzinator here on the forum).

All in all - HUGE congrats to everyone here on the forum, each being decisive winners over the international opponents!

As has been said, the predicting of individual player performances is more luck (or prayer!) than management sometimes. :astonished:

So after all that, the Leader Board stands as follows after GW 14:

# Team W D L + Pts
1 Laroche Lions 10 1 3 691 31
2 Bitm2007 10 0 4 766 30
3 The best teAm NevEr 10 0 4 738 30
4 BusbyBabes 10 0 4 728 30
5 Mighty Leeds 9 2 3 688 29
6 DIRTY SANCHEZ 9 1 4 804 28
7 The Favorites! 9 1 4 786 28
8 Delph = Snake 9 1 4 750 28
9 Nachooooo! 9 1 4 692 28
10 The blues fc 9 1 4 670 28
11 Li2k 9 0 5 622 27
12 stiva993 8 1 5 700 25
13 Anaika United 8 0 6 699 24
14 Mexican Monkeys 8 0 6 695 24
15 UYEEMAN 8 0 6 663 24
16 Bon Vivant 7 2 5 753 23
17 MOSS SIDE BLUE'S 7 2 5 625 23
18 Deleted 7 1 6 642 22
19 bag of Richards 7 1 6 635 22
20 Kivimäki County 7 0 7 710 21
21 Lokomotiv Bawbag 7 0 7 708 21
22 FIGJAM 7 0 7 658 21
23 Dortmund Wizards 7 0 7 591 21
24 GCMU 6 2 6 621 20
25 The Skidmarks 6 1 7 609 19
26 Average 5 1 8 643 16
27 AJ 5 0 9 679 15
28 opener 5 0 9 657 15
29 JULIE'S CITY FC 5 0 9 639 15
30 MEZO 5 0 9 623 15
31 Rossco Wanders 4 1 9 651 13
32 Desi Doctor 4 1 9 583 13
33 Blueroos 4 0 10 616 12
34 Killer Kane 3 1 10 534 10
35 Arsene's Assassins 3 0 11 687 9
36 chelseaparkdabus 3 0 11 626 9
37 faizeecfc 3 0 11 580 9
38 Deleted 3 0 11 546 9

GW 15 is just around the corner. Good luck to all those who need it!!
 
Heads up ppl - GW15 starts tonight so don't forget to fix your teams etc etc.

And as a champion once said: good luck to everyone
(although as was also said - some need it more than others!) :wink:
 
In our International Comp, Gameweek 15 results are in, with games/final scores as follow:

Mexican Monkeys 69 - 64 Laroche Lions
Bon Vivant 70 - 40 Desi Doctor
BusbyBabes 66 - 67 stiva993
faizeecfc 28 - 72 AJ
DIRTY SANCHEZ 48 - 28 Nachooooo!
Blueroos 69 - 46 UYEEMAN
Dortmund Wizards 28 - 68 Mighty Leeds
The Favorites! 64 - 60 bag of Richards
Bitm2007 82 - 48 MEZO
Killer Kane 32 - 47 The blues fc
FIGJAM 66 - 69 Rossco Wanders
chelseaparkdabus 70 - 45 Deleted
Delph = Snake 64 - 62 Anaika United
Li2k 71 - 73 JULIE'S CITY FC
GCMU 61 - 45 Kivimäki County
The best teAm NevEr 78 - 77 MOSS SIDE BLUE'S
opener 53 - 59 The Skidmarks
Arsene's Assassins 71 - 59 Lokomotiv Bawbag
Average 51 - 32 Deleted

Mexican Monkeys (bazzinator here on the forum) had a wonderful victory over Laroche Lions (tiger_one here on the forum), joined in the winning circle by Bon Vivant (Mrs tiger_one here on the forum) and Blueroos (from the WT f/B page). :righton:

BUT perhaps the most decisive win so far this comp was by the ever popular Mighty Leeds (foreveratiger here on the forum) whose victory has taken him to outright 3rd position in a very spirited leader board - on 32 points - just one point away from the equal leaders on 31\. :master:

Great work to all the winners in this most competitive of leagues.

And yes, with all the so-called EPL star players sometimes performing well and others going missing-in-action (AAAGGGHHH!!!) this competition never ceases to surprise in its results, no matter how much we seem to think we know before the event!

As has been said, the predicting of individual player performances is more luck (or prayer!) than management sometimes. :astonished:

So after all that, the Leader Board stands as follows after GW 15:

# Team W D L + Pts
1 Bitm2007 11 0 4 848 33
2 The best teAm NevEr 11 0 4 816 33
3 Mighty Leeds 10 2 3 756 32
4 DIRTY SANCHEZ 10 1 4 852 31
5 The Favorites! 10 1 4 850 31
6 Delph = Snake 10 1 4 814 31
7 Laroche Lions 10 1 4 755 31
8 The blues fc 10 1 4 717 31
9 BusbyBabes 10 0 5 794 30
10 stiva993 9 1 5 767 28
11 Nachooooo! 9 1 5 720 28
12 Mexican Monkeys 9 0 6 764 27
13 Li2k 9 0 6 693 27
14 Bon Vivant 8 2 5 823 26
15 Anaika United 8 0 7 761 24
16 UYEEMAN 8 0 7 709 24
17 MOSS SIDE BLUE'S 7 2 6 702 23
18 GCMU 7 2 6 682 23
19 bag of Richards 7 1 7 695 22
20 Deleted 7 1 7 687 22
21 The Skidmarks 7 1 7 668 22
22 Lokomotiv Bawbag 7 0 8 767 21
23 Kivimäki County 7 0 8 755 21
24 FIGJAM 7 0 8 724 21
25 Dortmund Wizards 7 0 8 619 21
26 Average 6 1 8 694 19
27 AJ 6 0 9 751 18
28 JULIE'S CITY FC 6 0 9 712 18
29 Rossco Wanders 5 1 9 720 16
30 opener 5 0 10 710 15
31 Blueroos 5 0 10 685 15
32 MEZO 5 0 10 671 15
33 Desi Doctor 4 1 10 623 13
34 Arsene's Assassins 4 0 11 758 12
35 chelseaparkdabus 4 0 11 696 12
36 Killer Kane 3 1 11 566 10
37 faizeecfc 3 0 12 608 9
38 Deleted 3 0 12 578 9

GW 16 is just around the corner. Good luck to all those who need it!!
 
Attention : foreveratiger, bazzinator, Mrs tiger_one, and tiger_one from here on the forum, and Blueroos from the WT f/b page:

Heads up ppl - GW16 starts tonight so don't forget to fix your teams etc etc.

And as a champion once said: good luck to everyone
(although as was also said - some need it more than others!) :wink:
 
In our International Comp, Gameweek 16 results are in, with games/final scores as follow:

Laroche Lions 63 - 65 Bitm2007
MEZO 66 - 55 The Favorites!
bag of Richards 59 - 42 Dortmund Wizards
Mighty Leeds 62 - 54 Blueroos
UYEEMAN 45 - 64 DIRTY SANCHEZ
Nachooooo! 38 - 35 faizeecfc
AJ 64 - 64 BusbyBabes
stiva993 73 - 64 Bon Vivant
Desi Doctor 34 - 51 Average
Deleted 19 - 56 Arsene's Assassins
Lokomotiv Bawbag 60 - 44 opener
The Skidmarks 62 - 72 The best teAm NevEr
MOSS SIDE BLUE'S 66 - 81 GCMU
Kivimäki County 57 - 67 Li2k
JULIE'S CITY FC 72 - 55 Delph = Snake
Anaika United 61 - 68 chelseaparkdabus
Deleted 46 - 62 FIGJAM
Rossco Wanders 66 - 31 Killer Kane
The blues fc 53 - 70 Mexican Monkeys

Some telling results, including Laroche Lions (tiger_one here on the forum) and Bon Vivant (Mrs tiger_one here on the forum) going down in very tight matches.

However, with the festive season almost here, early Christmas presents were awarded to Mexican Monkeys (bazzinator here on the forum) and Mighty Leeds (foreveratiger here on the forum) who each recorded timely wins that have:
(1) reinforced Mighty Leeds in 3rd position on the table (and this time round at the cost of Blueroos (from the WT f/B page), and
(2) where Mexican Monkeys have kept their solid mid-table advance, now being well in the close-up shadows of the leaders.

Great work to all the winners in this most competitive of leagues.

And yes, with all the so-called EPL star players sometimes performing well and others going missing-in-action (AAAGGGHHH!!!) this competition never ceases to surprise in its results, no matter how much we seem to think we know before the event!

As has been said, the predicting of individual player performances is more luck (or prayer!) than management sometimes. :astonished:

So after all that, the Leader Board stands as follows after GW 16:

# Team W D L + Pts
1 Bitm2007 12 0 4 913 36
2 The best teAm NevEr 12 0 4 888 36
3 Mighty Leeds 11 2 3 818 35
4 DIRTY SANCHEZ 11 1 4 916 34
5 The Favorites! 10 1 5 905 31
6 Delph = Snake 10 1 5 869 31
7 BusbyBabes 10 1 5 858 31
8 stiva993 10 1 5 840 31
9 Laroche Lions 10 1 5 818 31
10 The blues fc 10 1 5 770 31
11 Nachooooo! 10 1 5 758 31
12 Mexican Monkeys 10 0 6 834 30
13 Li2k 10 0 6 760 30
14 Bon Vivant 8 2 6 887 26
15 GCMU 8 2 6 763 26
16 bag of Richards 8 1 7 754 25
17 Lokomotiv Bawbag 8 0 8 827 24
18 Anaika United 8 0 8 822 24
19 FIGJAM 8 0 8 786 24
20 UYEEMAN 8 0 8 754 24
21 MOSS SIDE BLUE'S 7 2 7 768 23
22 Average 7 1 8 745 22
23 Deleted 7 1 8 733 22
24 The Skidmarks 7 1 8 730 22
25 Kivimäki County 7 0 9 812 21
26 JULIE'S CITY FC 7 0 9 784 21
27 Dortmund Wizards 7 0 9 661 21
28 AJ 6 1 9 815 19
29 Rossco Wanders 6 1 9 786 19
30 MEZO 6 0 10 737 18
31 Arsene's Assassins 5 0 11 814 15
32 chelseaparkdabus 5 0 11 764 15
33 opener 5 0 11 754 15
34 Blueroos 5 0 11 739 15
35 Desi Doctor 4 1 11 657 13
36 Killer Kane 3 1 12 597 10
37 faizeecfc 3 0 13 643 9
38 Deleted 3 0 13 597 9

GW 17 is just around the corner. Good luck to all those who need it!!
 
Attention : foreveratiger, bazzinator, Mrs tiger_one, and tiger_one from here on the forum, and Blueroos from the WT f/b page:

Heads up ppl - GW17 starts tonight so don't forget to fix your teams etc etc.

And as a champion once said: good luck to everyone
(although as was also said - some need it more than others!) :wink:
 
Okie dokie FT, will get back to an Internet connection/computer later today & we'll check the latest.
 
@tiger_one said:
Okie dokie FT, will get back to an Internet connection/computer later today & we'll check the latest.

Only kidding mate…..FT is leading it hence why i said it :mrgreen: :roll
 
In our International Barclays Fantasy Comp, Gameweek 17 results are in, with games/final scores as follow:

Killer Kane
45 - 86
Laroche Lions

Bon Vivant
85 - 70
Lokomotiv Bawbag

BusbyBabes
75 - 25
Deleted

faizeecfc
61 - 35
Desi Doctor

DIRTY SANCHEZ
71 - 70
stiva993

Blueroos
73 - 86
AJ

Dortmund Wizards
38 - 37
Nachooooo!

The Favorites!
52 - 54
UYEEMAN

Bitm2007
85 - 92
Mighty Leeds

MEZO
44 - 74
bag of Richards

FIGJAM
59 - 76
Mexican Monkeys

chelseaparkdabus
93 - 57
The blues fc

Delph = Snake
75 - 75
Rossco Wanders

Li2k
81 - 65
Deleted

GCMU
71 - 69
Anaika United

The best teAm NevEr
69 - 73
JULIE'S CITY FC

opener
60 - 77
Kivimäki County

Arsene's Assassins
96 - 73
MOSS SIDE BLUE'S

Average 59 - 68
The Skidmarks
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This EPL fantasy competition continues to surprise and bewilder, but there again, some results reveal the luck and good fortune – oh, and maybe a modicum of great player judgements!
Again this round, consistent form allround was shown by Mighty Leeds (foreveratiger), Laroche Lions (tiger_one), Bon Vivant (Mrs tiger_one) and Mexican Monkeys (bazzinator), while Blueroos went down in a tight one.
And what does all this mean in the scheme of things as we approach the post-Christmas fantasy period?
Well for starters, we have a NEW OUTRIGHT LEADER in the league – and that is (cue massive drum-roll!) Mighty Leeds (foreveratiger) on 38 points ahead of Laroche Lions (tiger_one) on 34, closely followed by Mexican Monkeys (bazzinator) on 33 – that is how close the leading contingent is.
Thereafter are Bon Vivant (Mrs tiger_one) on 29 points, with Blueroos back a tad on 15 points.

Huge congrats to Mighty Leeds who seemingly has sussed out the formula to do a Leicester to the opposition and lead into Christmas. (Maybe James Vardy lives within our forum?? Just sayin’!)

But maybe we should also say great work to all the winners in this most competitive of leagues.

And yes, with all the so-called EPL star players sometimes performing well and others going missing-in-action (AAAGGGHHH!!!) this competition never ceases to surprise in its results, no matter how much we seem to think we know before the event!

As has been said, the predicting of individual player performances is more luck (or prayer!) than management sometimes.

So after all that, the Leader Board stands as follows after GW 18:

+- # Team W D L + Pts
1 Mighty Leeds
12 2 3 910 38
2 DIRTY SANCHEZ
12 1 4 987 37
3 Bitm2007
12 0 5 998 36
4 The best teAm NevEr
12 0 5 957 36
5 BusbyBabes
11 1 5 933 34
6 Laroche Lions
11 1 5 904 34
7 Mexican Monkeys
11 0 6 910 33
8 Li2k
11 0 6 841 33
9 Delph = Snake
10 2 5 944 32
10 The Favorites!
10 1 6 957 31
11 stiva993
10 1 6 910 31
12 The blues fc
10 1 6 827 31
13 Nachooooo!
10 1 6 795 31
14 Bon Vivant
9 2 6 972 29
15 GCMU
9 2 6 834 29
16 bag of Richards
9 1 7 828 28
17 UYEEMAN
9 0 8 808 27
18 The Skidmarks
8 1 8 798 25
19 Lokomotiv Bawbag
8 0 9 897 24
20 Anaika United
8 0 9 891 24
21 Kivimäki County
8 0 9 889 24
22 JULIE'S CITY FC
8 0 9 857 24
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23 FIGJAM
8 0 9 845 24
24 Dortmund Wizards
8 0 9 699 24
25 MOSS SIDE BLUE'S
7 2 8 841 23
26 AJ
7 1 9 901 22
27 Average 7 1 9 804 22
28 Deleted
7 1 9 798 22
29 Rossco Wanders
6 2 9 861 20
30 Arsene's Assassins
6 0 11 910 18
31 chelseaparkdabus
6 0 11 857 18
32 MEZO
6 0 11 781 18
33 opener
5 0 12 814 15
34 Blueroos
5 0 12 812 15
35 Desi Doctor
4 1 12 692 13
36 faizeecfc
4 0 13 704 12
37 Killer Kane
3 1 13 642 10
38 Deleted
3 0 14 622 9

GW 18 is just around the corner. Good luck to all those who need it!!
 
Attention : foreveratiger, bazzinator, Mrs tiger_one, and tiger_one from here on the forum, and Blueroos from the WT f/b page:

Heads up ppl - GW18 starts tonight so don't forget to fix your teams etc etc.

And as a champion once said: good luck to everyone
(although as was also said - some need it more than others!) :wink:
 
The festive season has come and gone in this EPL fantasy competition, with some teams enjoying the joy of their players “giving” whilst others have had to sit back and wait for their presents to open.
Results have continued in the manner of luck and good fortune – oh, and maybe a modicum of great player judgements!

After Gameweek 22, the forum champions who have taken all-comers in this international fantasy league, namely Mighty Leeds (foreveratiger), Laroche Lions (tiger_one), Bon Vivant (Mrs tiger_one) and Mexican Monkeys (bazzinator), while Blueroos each continue to proudly enhance our reputations, even in the tightest of competitions.
So where are we all?
As at Gameweek 22, the leader board reads as follows:
+- # Team W D L + Pts
1 The Favorites!
15 1 6 1,232 46
1 DIRTY SANCHEZ
15 1 6 1,232 46
3 Laroche Lions
15 1 6 1,156 46
4 Bitm2007
14 0 8 1,242 42
5 The best teAm NevEr
14 0 8 1,150 42
6 The blues fc
13 2 7 1,062 41
7 BusbyBabes
13 1 8 1,161 40
8 Mexican Monkeys
13 1 8 1,144 40
9 bag of Richards
13 1 8 1,104 40
10 Delph = Snake
12 3 7 1,206 39
11 Mighty Leeds
12 3 7 1,106 39
12 Li2k
13 0 9 1,043 39
13 Bon Vivant
12 2 8 1,189 38
14 stiva993
12 1 9 1,110 37
15 The Skidmarks
12 1 9 1,046 37
16 Kivimäki County
12 0 10 1,124 36
17 UYEEMAN
12 0 10 1,041 36
18 Nachooooo!
11 1 10 1,012 34
19 JULIE'S CITY FC
11 0 11 1,102 33
20 FIGJAM
11 0 11 1,045 33
21 Rossco Wanders
10 2 10 1,098 32
22 Deleted
10 1 11 1,061 31
23 Lokomotiv Bawbag
10 0 12 1,140 30
24 Anaika United
10 0 12 1,096 30
25 GCMU
9 2 11 1,053 29
26 chelseaparkdabus
9 1 12 1,064 28
27 Average 9 1 12 1,026 28
28 Blueroos
9 0 13 1,045 27
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29 AJ
8 1 13 1,127 25
30 MEZO
8 1 13 1,012 25
31 Arsene's Assassins
8 0 14 1,123 24
32 MOSS SIDE BLUE'S
7 3 12 1,075 24
33 Dortmund Wizards
8 0 14 903 24
34 Desi Doctor
7 1 14 984 22
35 faizeecfc
6 1 15 954 19
36 Killer Kane
6 1 15 841 19
37 opener
6 0 16 1,030 18
38 Deleted
6 0 16 885 18

Since the last report, Mighty Leeds (foreveratiger) has risen slightly to 39 points, trailing behind a tad to Laroche Lions (tiger_one) on 46 and Mexican Monkeys (bazzinator) on 40 - that is how close the leading contingent is.
Thereafter, Bon Vivant (Mrs tiger_one) sits on 38 points and Blueroos back a tad on 27 points.

So lots of toing and froing from one week to the next!
But maybe we should also say great work to all the winners in this most competitive of leagues.

And yes, with all the so-called EPL star players sometimes performing well and others going missing-in-action (AAAGGGHHH!!!) this competition never ceases to surprise in its results, no matter how much we seem to think we know before the event!

As has been said, the predicting of individual player performances is more luck (or prayer!) than management sometimes.
Good luck to all.
 
Attention : foreveratiger, bazzinator, Mrs tiger_one, and tiger_one from here on the forum, and Blueroos from the WT f/b page:

Heads up ppl - GW 23 starts tonight so don't forget to fix your teams etc etc.

And as a champion once said: good luck to everyone
(although as was also said - some need it more than others!) :wink:
 
Also, Admin - this thread might better sit in "Other Sports" where each of the other current fantasy comps are!

Just sayin! :wink:
 
@tiger_one said:
Also, Admin - this thread might better sit in "Other Sports" where each of the other current fantasy comps are!

Just sayin! :wink:

Fixed…
 
OMG - another fantasy league comp that seems to have fallen into the "Oops forgotten basket"!!

Well, not from now - the resurrection is now!

As things stand, the fantasy league comp league table stands as follows:

+- # Team W D L + Pts
1 Laroche Lions 22 1 9 1,700 67
2 DIRTY SANCHEZ 21 1 10 1,849 64
3 The Favorites! 21 1 10 1,755 64
4 Delph = Snake 19 4 9 1,848 61
5 Mexican Monkeys 19 1 12 1,646 58
6 The best teAm NevEr 19 0 13 1,722 57
7 Kivimäki County 19 0 13 1,687 57
8 Li2k 19 0 13 1,598 57
9 Rossco Wanders 18 2 12 1,710 56
10 The blues fc 18 2 12 1,544 56
11 bag of Richards 18 1 13 1,642 55
12 Bitm2007 18 0 14 1,786 54
13 Lokomotiv Bawbag 18 0 14 1,722 54
14 FIGJAM 18 0 14 1,630 54
15 BusbyBabes 17 1 14 1,718 52
16 chelseaparkdabus 17 1 14 1,715 52
17 stiva993 17 1 14 1,653 52
18 Bon Vivant 16 3 13 1,788 51
19 Nachooooo! 16 1 15 1,596 49
20 JULIE'S CITY FC 16 0 16 1,658 48
21 GCMU 15 2 15 1,580 47
22 AJ 15 1 16 1,655 46
23 The Skidmarks 15 1 16 1,530 46
24 Anaika United 15 0 17 1,654 45
25 Mighty Leeds 14 3 15 1,571 45
26 UYEEMAN 15 0 17 1,559 45
27 MEZO 14 1 17 1,548 43
28 Dortmund Wizards 14 0 18 1,370 42
29 MOSS SIDE BLUE'S 12 3 17 1,619 39
30 Blueroos 13 0 19 1,579 39
31 faizeecfc 12 1 19 1,531 37
32 Deleted 12 1 19 1,514 37
33 Average 10 1 21 1,484 31
34 Desi Doctor 10 1 21 1,431 31
35 Arsene's Assassins 10 0 22 1,594 30
36 opener 10 0 22 1,538 30
37 Deleted 10 0 22 1,422 30
38 Killer Kane 8 1 23 1,275 25
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Laroche Lions (tiger_one) leads the way at this stage, with Mexican Monkeys (bazzinator) a still close up 5th position.
Bon Vivant (Mrs tiger_one) sits on 18th position, a tad in front of Mighty Leeds in 25th spot.

Still - there's 8 game rounds to go and this international comp will weave many a surprising turn as the EPL ebbs and flows to what looks like a thrilling conclusion (any Foxes fans out there??).

Good luck to all as the comp continues!
 
Attention : foreveratiger, bazzinator, Mrs tiger_one, and tiger_one from here on the forum, and Blueroos from the WT f/b page:

Heads up ppl - GW 36 starts tonight so don't forget to fix your teams etc etc.

And as a champion once said: good luck to everyone
(although as was also said - some need it more than others!) :wink:
 
@tiger_one said:
Attention : foreveratiger, bazzinator, Mrs tiger_one, and tiger_one from here on the forum, and Blueroos from the WT f/b page:

Heads up ppl - GW 36 starts tonight so don't forget to fix your teams etc etc.

And as a champion once said: good luck to everyone
(although as was also said - some need it more than others!) :wink:

I've let you down badly in this Comp :eek:pen_mouth:, i totally got side tracked with all the Comps and haven't seen my side since Christmas i think :brick:, my apologies.
Even with my Supercoach Team…..got no idea what's doing.
 
All good ft, everything still works out (I play mini-comps in my head from week to week just to maintain interest etc, there's so much happening etc).

I might say that I'm already thinking of a more snappy, more fun EPL comp next year - just for West Tigers forum members - so we never just rest on our laurels!
 
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